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Mike Petters
Presentation at Regent University
October 16, 2006
Pat, thank you for that very kind and warm introduction.
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I’m honored to be here and to be part of this distinguished
group of speakers and part of this series. I think you’ve
done something exceptional in reaching out and creating this
series, and I’m honored to be part of it.
I think that as we talk through this, you’ll see that
I have a view that corporations don’t spend enough time
talking about the importance of leadership and how it is a
competency that corporations should spend more time on. This
is a great way to facilitate that, so I’m very appreciative
of that. I’m also looking to be able to get to a point
to a point where we can field some questions, so this will
be a two-way communication.
Since I am going to talk about leadership, and particularly
some of the questions around honor and ethics, I will put
up a disclaimer at the beginning: This is a risky topic for
any corporate executive to take on because hypocrisy is the
mortal sin of leadership, and you don’t ever want to
have your words come back to you. We all try hard, so I hope
you take that in spirit and go with that.
[Video]
[Company overview]
What I want to talk about are not the ships so much. I really
want to talk about the people at the shipyard and how we make
things work and then how I view the business side of this.
We have 19,000 people at the shipyard. That’s down
from over 30,000 that we had at the end of the ’80s.
Like a lot of defense companies, we’ve downsized by
lay-offs as well as by attrition. We have a workforce today
that is either very senior with lots of experience or very
junior and just hired. We don’t have a great middle
ground in our workforce. So the challenge for us is capturing
the knowledge of our senior, experienced craftsmen and making
sure we can capture that and train our new folks when they
come in before they leave. That’s a big challenge for
us, and my view is that’s a big challenge for the entire
industry as we go forward. We’re working on a lot of
ways to go to solve that problem. We feel leadership is a
way to enable that process.
A lot of folks will come and sell you knowledge management
tools and databases and software, but it fundamentally comes
down to: How good is your leadership team?
We have about 2,000 folks in the shipyard who are on the
leadership team and have people they are responsible for,
so we work very hard on the issue of leadership.
Think about all the processes you have going on in your organization.
Think about all the formal processes you have and all the
informal processes, and think for a minute about which one
process is the most important of them all. Some will say accounting;
some will say marketing. In my view, the most important process
in your organization is the process that describes the relationship
between a leader and her people. That process is one of the
most informal processes we have. It is not well documented.
It is not well trained. But the leader is the person that
the people in the organization see and that represents the
corporation. And if you can get 19,000 people all headed in
the same direction, you’ve really accomplished something.
Since everything you’re going to accomplish as a business
starts with people, it’s the leadership that’s
the enabling tool for making that happen.
Now why does that matter? Anybody hear of Enron?
I will give you another disclaimer: I am not an expert accountant.
I am just a guy who has read a book about Enron and seen a
movie about Enron and followed the trial. In my view, what
happened at Enron – beyond all of the accounting gymnastics
and beyond all of the other technical stuff that got all wrapped
up there –is they had a failure in their leadership.
The leadership did not set the correct tone at the top.
The first I had ever even heard of this was the day the Wall
Street Journal reported that the CFO was sitting on both sides
of transactions. Remember when that broke? I’m just
a shipbuilder, but I don’t know how you can sit both
sides of a transaction and make that fair for all the people
you’re supposed to make it fair for. How can you represent
the company if you’re negotiating with yourself?
How could a leadership team actually stop and look itself
in the mirror and say, “This is OK?” How can they
do that? Well, I’ve thought about that long and hard
because those are the kind of traps – those rationalizations
that you go through as a leadership team -- those are the
kinds of traps that you can walk into unwittingly if you’re
not on your guard.
I thought I would tell you a little bit of a personal story
and show you -- this isn’t the total cause, but this
is one cause that we can be aware of.
When I first went to the Naval Academy, during Plebe summer,
we were given two sorts of indoctrinations. We were indoctrinated
into the honor code, and we were oriented toward the conduct
code. Two very different things. The honor code was pretty
straightforward. In those days, it was “A midshipman
will not lie, cheat or steal or tolerate those who do.”
The conduct code, on the other hand, was a thick book, and
it had rules and regulations in it. It had rules in it that
would say, “You have to have your hair within quarter
of an inch of the scalp.” You name it, we had a rule
for it.
The orientation that we received went something like this:
The honor code was sacred. The conduct code, on the other
hand, “Well, you’re a Naval officer now, you rate
what you get away with.” The conduct code would say
you have to be back in your barracks by 11 o’clock.
Taps is at 11 o’clock. Going out over the wall, visiting
the little campus out in Annapolis after 11 o’clock,
was a conduct code violation, but it was not an honor code
violation.
What ended up happening with this “You rate what you
get away with” mentality is you develop a lot of “sea
lawyers.” That’s what we would call them. These
folks who would say, “Well, my hair actually was within
a quarter of an inch of my scalp at that point in time.”
They come up with all kinds of rationale. The fundamental
thing was you didn’t get a haircut this week and you
deserve the demerits. But you come up with some rationale
and you rationalize it away so that you’re OK.
Now, the honor code at the Naval Academy has changed. They
made it a much more positive statement. It doesn’t say
what you won’t do – it says midshipmen are individuals
with integrity and they will always tell the truth. Instead
of saying, “You won’t lie,” they say, “You
will always tell the truth.” They have now watered it
down so you can’t say it in one sentence. It’s
like three or four paragraphs, and I’m not sure that
it’s easy to memorize, but there’s a definite
distinction here between “You rate what you get away
with” and some code of honor.
When you think about what happened with Enron, there was
a situation there where you had some very, very smart people
who were looking at ways to get around the accounting system.
I don’t know if Ken Lay actually knew what was going
on -- I really don’t know, and I don’t know that
we’ll ever know – but I believe, based on what
I’ve read, that Jeff Skilling knew exactly what he was
doing. Because one of the things I read was that he actually
said he would not take the job unless he would be given the
privilege of “marking to market” in his accounting
process.
I’m not an accountant, but I can tell you what that
means: If I were to go and sell the Navy a contract for an
aircraft carrier -- it takes eight years to build an aircraft
carrier, and over the course of the eight years, we have accounting
rules where we invoice the government, and we book our profit
based on the progress we’ve made on the ship -- well,
if we “mark that to market,” when I sign a contract
for a $4 billion aircraft carrier, I could recognize the profit
in the quarter where I signed the contract. Before I’ve
put the first hour of work into building the ship, I’ve
recognized the all of the profit.
From what I understand, Jeff Skilling decided he would not
be president of Enron unless he had permission to do that.
That doesn’t make sense to me. How can you run a business
where you’re going to book all your profit before you
do any work? But they knew exactly what they were doing –
at least he knew exactly what he was doing, because he wouldn’t
have taken the job.
I think it’s because you have that mentality of “I
rate what I get away with.” “If I can convince
the SEC to let me do this, we’re going to make a lot
of money. If I can convince our auditors to let me do this,
we’re going to do OK. This is the right thing. This
will keep the business going.”
The common sense view would be, “Wait a minute –
what’s really right about this?” If you go and
you look at how he dealt with people on his staff and the
incentives that he put in place, the decisions that he made,
he absolutely encouraged risk-taking. He rewarded those people
who came up with more creative and innovative ways to go around
what was written in the rule book. They actually rationalized
it by saying they were creating a whole new way of doing business.
I don’t know that there are too many “whole new
ways of doing business.” You need to make a product.
You need to make it efficiently. You need to find a buyer.
You need to come to terms with what makes sense with that.
That’s not the way they were doing business. So “Rate
what you get away with” is a problem. It’s a huge
problem. It’s a huge problem for corporate America,
particularly when we have rules in our accounting systems
that beg you to test, that beg you to challenge and interpret
and then be subject to second-guessing in your interpretations.
The leader’s job is not to get all wrapped up in those
interpretations. The leader’s job is to step back and
say, “What’s right here? What’s the right
thing we ought to be doing? How do we separate the accounting
dispute with the audit company from what’s the right
thing to do?” And if it turns out that the right thing
to do is not prohibited by the rules, then let’s take
that forward and have a discussion with the folks that are
out there that can help us solve that problem. That’s
the role of leaders. Leaders have the responsibility to step
back and say, “What’s the right thing to do?”
And they absolutely have the responsibility to create a climate
in their organization where people always are asking, “What’s
right? What’s the right thing to do?”
One of the things we talk about at the shipyard when we get
into these discussions – and they happen every day –
we always ask ourselves, “Where’s the high ground?
What’s the high ground in this issue?” Sometimes,
you can’t get to the high ground -- that’s true
-- but you can always approach it. And you need to always
understand where it is and what the high ground position would
be. And then you can make your deliberate decisions about
what you’re going to do.
As I said before, we have about 2,000 leaders. How do you
instill a tone at the top? How do you infuse that throughout
your entire organization? We tell our people that the job
of a leader is very straightforward. The job of a leader is
to put your people in a position where they can do their best
work. Your job is to ensure that your people are successful.
Your job is not to tell your people what to do and then have
them do it for you.
If you’re having them do it for you, you’re going
to be very limited. You’re going to close the avenue
of new ideas that will come from your folks. You won’t
have the opportunity for someone to stand up and say, “Mike,
you’re heading down the wrong path.”
This is a fundamental change across Newport News -- a fundamental
change for the leadership group -- and a lot of our folks
are adapting to it very well. For some, it takes a little
bit of getting used to. If you’re in a large organization
that’s used to being “OK, now you’re the
director of something, that means everybody that works for
you has to do what you say,” if that’s the way
you’ve been brought up, it’s kind of hard to shed
those spots overnight.
What did we do to make that happen? We’ve created a
bunch of seminars throughout the organization. We have a view
that there are no new leadership problems at the shipyard.
Every time you are facing a situation, you are not the first
person in the shipyard who has seen it. Our challenge is to
get you connected with someone who has dealt with this problem
before. So we do leadership seminars and case studies where
leaders work with leaders so they can help understand each
other and how they might respond to particular issues. But
they also have a chance to get to know more leaders in the
company so they can pick up the phone and talk to folks on
a day-in, day-out basis and ask for some help.
The beauty of all this is that we were lucky. Our founder
had it right at the beginning. He said, “We will be
build good ships -- at a profit if we can, at a loss if we
must -- but always good ships.” And that was 120 years
ago, and that still rings true today. It’s absolutely
consistent with what we’re trying to do in moving our
leadership team in the direction of searching out and taking
the high ground, putting their people in places where they
can be successful.
I encourage you to try that with your folks if you’re
not already doing that. Certainly search out the high ground.
That’s an important task for the leader of an organization
-- to step back from the day-to-day trying to figure out “How
do I get away with something?” “What’s the
right thing to do here?”
With that, I’m going to go ahead an open the floor
up to questions.
[Q&A]

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